Equiduct: Addressing The MiFID Challenge

ON THE RECORD

Former Dresdner Kleinwort IT strategy director Bob Fuller, who has served as co-chair of industry initiatives such as the MiFID IT Joint Working Group and the GSTPA Technology Committee, is one of the key figures in the drive for MiFID compliance. Now, as the head of Equiduct, a private pan-European exchange, Fuller aims to go one step further by offering tangible solutions to the challenges of MiFID.

Inside Market Data spoke to him at Incisive Media's Compliance 06 conference in London.

IMD

: How will Equiduct address the transparency challenges of the MiFID regulations?

Equiduct only works because of the MiFID transparency challenges. Our role is to look at the major pools of liquidity—all the pan-European stocks—and to create best bid and offer across the marketplace and be able to trade at that best bid and offer or better. Without the transparency requirements it couldn't exist.

IMD

: Where does Equiduct fit into the data landscape—is it a consolidator, an ECN, a reporting platform, or a different beast entirely?

I think we're parts of all of those. We feed data in from all the major pools of liquidity. And we'll look to do that with very low latency. We've yet to pick who those providers will be, but we are in serious negotiations to see who can provide the lowest latency into us. Secondly, we are a data provider, so one of the things we're going to offer is best bid and offer, both in the local currency and in euros, for the 537 [most liquid European] stocks. And we expect most of the data providers in the marketplace to want access to that—and we have a duty to publish our prices. From a data point of view, we take a lot of data in and we have our own data going out. From a connectivity point of view, we don't intend to put screens on people's desks. That's not our business—our business is to be the eBay of shares…. Basically, we will generate our own quotes as an exchange and we'll help people publish their quotes if that's what they wish to do. We have the mandatory responsibility to provide pre- and post-trade transparency, and therefore we will offer pre-trade quote publication and trade publishing if that's what people want.

IMD

: Why can't these challenges be addressed by existing parties in the markets?

We offer a completely different model. If you look at the big exchanges, they're very siloed. They've never looked at how you go across Europe in a secondary market way. They've always looked at listing and doing it their way. That's a completely different model to what we have. Unless they're going to buy 30 different exchanges and cope with the technology challenges of integrating all of that, I think that's going to be quite a challenge…. We're not going to list in the short term, but one of the things we are looking to do is talk to some of the smaller exchanges across Europe to offer them an alternative trading platform. So one of the easy ways for the Polish, Bulgarian or Czech stock exchange to get better access to the rest of Europe might be to move to our platform…. We're not looking to be disruptive to any stock exchanges—we're aiming to be the glue that enables them to compete in a pan-European marketplace. But some of the smaller ones may find our proposition attractive in terms of cutting their own costs and giving their exchange a more pan-European feel...

If you're one of these people that thinks, "MiFID will change Europe and we need to be there," then we'll work with you to ensure that you have the lowest latency to us and back out again; just as we'll work on making sure that we have the lowest latency to all the pools of liquidity. So market data and latency are very high items on my agenda. Getting exchange feeds in is very important—the ability to turn that around into a best bid and offer, and do foreign exchange deals on the fly so I can quote in euros—and the ability to get my prices out there hopefully faster than anyone else. In an ideal world, I'd like our best bid and offer to be there at the same time that other people are seeing where the pools of liquidity are. If we pick the best of breed all the way through and other people don't pick the best of breed, then I can do that.

IMD

: Who do you compete with, and how do you sit with other MiFID-inspired ventures, such as the so-called Project Boat?

I think project Boat is a very interesting tier-one play. But a number of things strike you as soon as you mention nine tier-one banks. They always have their own view on how they're going to do something and are always trying to outdo one another. Its going to be difficult for them to remain focused on providing something in the centre and not have each of them trying to make their own play. Secondly, being owned by nine tier-one banks—bearing in mind most of those are American or British—and then going out to the smaller banks in Europe, makes the sales process quite complicated. Our sales force runs out of Belgium. We're a Belgium-regulated entity, we have offices in Belgium—so we're European. As a regulated exchange we have to provide pre- and post-trade transparency… So we'll be in there offering the services that Boat does, so I can't see how it will be the predominant provider—and I don't think we will be [either]. I think there will be all of us in the middle offering low-cost provision of services.

IMD

: Why choose to pursue a venture like this outside of DrK and the MiFID JWG-IT?

I've always stood for… "collaboration reduces costs." And it has become apparent to me that the only way you can really reduce costs is by having central services. I then came across [Equiduct] with the product set that could provide those central services, but didn't quite understand how exactly that would work. We had a long discussion, and over time it made sense that I became the CEO of that company. I was very happy with my time at Dresdner. I think it worked well, and they were very good to put my time into the middle to help the industry. But it came time when I couldn't do what I wanted to do under the Dresdner umbrella but I could do by becoming CEO of a MiFID services company.

IMD

: What will your role involve, and how have your previous roles and expertise prepared you for this?

My view of my role is to get the message out there [that] there is an alternative to "build," which is to look at buying services. The second message that I'm getting out is that clearing and settlement doesn't have to change to move liquidity around. That's all about education and publicity. I've got a lot of contacts in the City and around Europe. The other part of my role is to ensure the company follows through with its commitments to the regulators and the Belgian government to ensure that they do everything in the most transparent way possible.

IMD

: Boat is being set up by the banks themselves: What level of commitment have you received from the industry?

It's early days. People wanted to see where this was going, what the marketing message was and who the CEO was. The response so far has been fantastic. All of the conferences I'm attending should generate enough interest level into what we're doing.

IMD

: Will MiFID's best-execution requirements make it easier to move liquidity?

If I don't change your front-end system, and your back-end system needs no changes because it still clears and settles in the same place, then what difference does it make? There is no barrier to moving liquidity other than, "I didn't want to." And "I didn't want to" isn't something that you can tell your client. It's going to take some time: We're not going to be on everybody's love-list from day one. By the end of 2008 and the beginning of 2009, I expect MiFID to start biting. Our view is that we want to take more than our fair share of the pan-European cross-border [market] to start with, prove ourselves with that and then people might start migrating some of their other business to us because of the service we provide. It's given the other exchanges something to think about.

CEO Confidential

Name:

Robert Douglas Fuller

Date of birth:

30 March 1955

Hometown:

London

Education:

Electronic engineering, Queen Mary College London

Current Home:

Little Totham, Essex

Family:

One 15-year-old son and 12-year-old daughter

What book are you currently reading?

I'm about to start The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown.

What CD is in your stereo?

The latest Scissor Sisters album. Also older titles—AC/DC, Beatles etc.

Q: Which sports team do you root for?

A: I'm a great rallying fan and I'm into Subaru, so I follow Peter Solberg.

Q: What did you do for your summer vacation?

A: Three weeks in the US, starting in Las Vegas, then two weeks driving around the Grand Canyon and Monument Valley. We took a helicopter trip over the Grand Canyon, went rafting down the San Juan river and took a hot air balloon over Sedona valley. We ended up in Los Angeles for the last three days and then flew home.

Q: What's your favourite place to visit and why?

A: Monte Carlo. I like the south of France a lot. I like the pace of life, the weather, the food and the wine. In Monte Carlo it's just amazing to see how much they've put into such a small place and still made it pretty.

Q: What newspapers or magazines do you read?

A: I take The Times every day and my wife takes the Daily Mail. I like to read the SIDC (Subaru Impreza Drivers Club) magazine, Countryside magazine… and Inside Market Data.

Q: What was your first paying job and how old were you?

A: I was 19 and I joined the British Bank of the Middle East at 20 Abchurch Lane as a clerk. I stayed there for about three years.

Q: If you could have dinner with any person, real or fictional, dead or alive, who would it be?

A: Arthur C Clarke. I'm interested in futurology. I often get asked to talk about how the banking industry will look in 10 years' time and I'm very interested in robotics. He thought up ideas about satellites and robotics, so it would be great to talk about how he came up with those ideas well before they were in the public domain.

Q: How much sleep do you get?

A: Not enough. I always aim for seven hours, but whether I get it or not is another thing.

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